Podcast: The day the West died: A wake-up call for New Zealand
Dr Oliver Hartwich
Dr Michael Johnston
20 February, 2025
In this episode, Michael and Oliver sound the alarm about the transformation of global power following a February 2025 phone call between Presidents Trump and Putin, where the US reportedly conceded to Russia's demands over Ukraine without consulting European allies.
They examine what they see as the collapse of the post-WWII liberal democratic order and its dire implications for Europe, the Pacific region, and New Zealand's future in an increasingly unstable world.
The discussion expands on Oliver's recent piece in Newsroom which you can read here.
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